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ZetaTalk Chat Q&A for October 17, 2015

I see conflicting/confusing commentary regarding the coastal elevation of Oregon after pole shift.  Perhaps you can clear it up. The San Andreas Slide ( seems to say: “as the Juan de Fuca Plate absorbs any pressure from the push of the Pacific Plate. Thus the elevation rise for Oregon and Washington is not expected to be more than 25-30 feet.” Then on the Safe Locations for Oregon ( seems to say: “Oregon is within a belt along the coast that will experience subducting, the coast rising up by a thousand feet or more due to this.” Should I understand these as separate unrelated events?  Will there be a combined effect of Cascadia subduction induced rise of 1000 ft. and San Andreas Slide induced rise of 25-30 in Oregon?

In the Safe Locations information, we stressed what those trying to survive in their locale would have to worry about. We stressed what the SURFACE of the ground would present  – overflowing rivers, or high tides rolling in from the oceans, exploding volcanoes nearby, violent and repeated shaking from earthquake faults. Where rising and falling elevation was a factor, the resulting elevation was presented. This was the case in India and Western Australia, and in Central America where the S American Plate, on the move, will essentially roll over these countries.  For survivors to find that their mountain home is now 1,000 higher in elevation after the Pole Shift is not considered a problem.  

The West Coast of both N America and S America clearly have mountain building that pushes land high, thus the Rockies in N America and the highlands of Peru. This land was at one point clearly at a lower elevation. We have described how rock layers slide under one another, the rumpling of land on the top layer occurring as the top layer goes along for the ride, sliding over the bottom layer. When subduction first occurs, this is not the case, but after repeated assaults any catch points are broken off and the rock layers slide over one another. The leading edge of the top layer rumples only slightly during any subsequent subduction, thus.

Mountain building drives mountains higher during every Pole Shift because the subducting rock layer encounters new obstacles in its path and either pushes them forward, upward, or rides over them. Pushing lose ground forward has been mentioned repeatedly in our Safe Locations warnings for Colorado, Montana, and British Colombia - locales to the east of the Continental Divide. The ground rumples and tosses surface objects about, and then is discovered to have gained in elevation. If the obstacle to the subducting rock layer is pushed upward, then elevation at that point increases, and sometimes dramatically. If the subducting rock layer slides over the obstacle, this likewise raises the surface elevation.

The Zeta’s announced, the world will be inundated with illness and disease, some new and some old. Hoping that the Zeta’s might take a look at this and tell us where, when and what kind of bugs have been discovered, beyond this article, in relation to Earths history. Obviously in the past shifts as new poles froze, some of these bugs located in these areas froze within the new pole area.  The Zeta’s educated us that the dinosaurs died not from a mass extinction per se, but from virus, and not all dinosaurs are dead today. I think it would be educational to look at these virus discovered and go back to their history to see what humans will be faced with as we get closer to the PS. This information will help the survivors prepare to help themselves, their immunity levels, and survivor camps that might need this information to help prepare to help migrating survivors live. [and from another]  Melting ice in the Arctic circle has been thawing out some gigantic ancient viruses. Last month, researchers announced they were studying a 30,000-year-old giant virus called Mollivirus sibericum that they found in melted Siberian permafrost. The virus was functional and able to infect amoeba. There are no human pathogens that have burst out of the Siberian permafrost. [and from another]  In the world of microbes, viruses are small — notoriously small. Pithovirus is not. The largest virus ever discovered, pithovirus is more massive than even some bacteria. Most viruses copy themselves by hijacking their host’s molecular machinery. But pithovirus is much more independent, possessing some replication machinery of its own. Pithovirus’s relatively large number of genes also differentiated it from other viruses, which are often genetically simple — the smallest have a mere four genes. Pithovirus has around 500 genes, and some are used for complex tasks such as making proteins and repairing and replicating DNA.

Where the Pithovirus is assumed to have survived 30,000 years frozen solid, this is not the case. The poles have wandered every 3,600 years, and the land thus subject to being defrosted regularly. In addition, the permafrost is only a couple feet deep, the soil beneath supporting rotting vegetation that produces large methane pools. But as the Pithovirus is not today known to infect man or wildlife, what might this mean for the future of Earth? Will it emerge to be like a movie where something long buried in the artic infects researchers and tries to escape the Arctic to take over the world?  

Pithovirus is not a new phenomena on Earth. How does man assume that the division between virus, bacteria, amoeba, algae, and multicellular creatures occurred during evolution? Pithovirus is larger and with more DNA than the viruses known to man, a step closer to what bacteria possess. We have stated that as the Pole Shift approaches, illness will increase. This is due to climate change, where pathogens will migrate to a climate more suitable to their nature, where they flourish. This has been happening steadily around the world, along coastlines in particular. In all these cases, those infected either die or develop immune responses to the new pathogens.

This has of course happened repeatedly, during every Pole Shift. Species must adapt to a new climate, and either migrate or adapt. Meanwhile vast numbers die. Species must adapt to newly encountered pathogens, and likewise their immune systems either adapt of they die. This is no different than mutating Flu or Ebola virus. Mankind must perpetually adapt, so that those with a strong immune system pass on their genes, and the rest die. Will Pithovirus infect mankind and the wildlife in Siberia? Of course it already has, and has never in fact been gone from Siberia, which has thrived in spite of Pithovirus.

I ran across this article and was hoping to have Zetas response to it. If true, then there's a check mate and we could be so close to an Announcement. [and from another]  The Khazarian mob is on the run as US military takes over Federal Reserve Board, by Benjamin, October 13, 2015. The US military, under the new leadership of Marine General Joseph Dunford, has come out with guns blazing to free the people of the United States and the world. Under his command, the US military has taken over the Khazarian mob’s main source of power, the Federal Reserve Board. To confirm this, go visit the home page of the Federal Reserve board, it is no longer but is now The Chinese coordinated with this move by announcing their China International Payments System alternative to the Khazarian controlled SWIFT system meaning their take-over of the US dollar system outside of the United States was proceeding as planned. The implosion of the big Khazarian mafia banks is now just a matter of time. Furthermore, there have been huge ongoing military moves in the Middle East aimed at removing the fascist Khazarian Nazionist government of Benyamin Netanyahu in Israel. [and from another]  The rogue Netanyahu regime only added gasoline to the fire last week by faking a US air force air raid against Syrian government forces in Aleppo, according to other Pentagon sources. The Russians were not fooled by this maneuver and responded by sending missiles and fighter jets over Iranian airspace (with Iran’s permission of course) to attack multiple targets in the Middle East, killing hundreds of Israeli, Saudi and Turkish troops operating against international law in Syria and Iraq, the Pentagon sources say. The real message of course is that the US military was ready to step aside and allow the Russians to clean up the mess in the Middle East. Fearing for his life and that of his regime, King Salman of Saudi Arabia checked into a hospital claiming severe Alzheimer’s disease while his son, the real power, Defense Minister and Crown Prince Salman flew to Russia. The other Middle Eastern autocrat who is in a deep state of funk is Turkey’s President Erdogan. The Pentagon is withdrawing all its forces and anti-missile defenses from Turkey as part of its general disengagement from the region. [and from another] The United States has pulled the USS Theodore Roosevelt – a massive, nuclear-powered aircraft carrier – out of the Persian Gulf as Russian warships have entered the area.  For the first time since 2007, the US Navy has now no aircraft carrier in the Persian Gulf. Russia has carried out more than 110 airstrikes against terrorists in Syria so far, killing hundreds of militants. The Pentagon announced on Wednesday that the United States had adopted measures to ensure a safe distance from Russian fighter jets flying over Syria. [and from another]  Mosaddeq's overthrow, still given as a reason for the Iranian mistrust of British and American politicians, consolidated the Shah's rule for the next 26 years until the 1979 Islamic revolution. It was aimed at making sure the Iranian monarchy would safeguard the west's oil interests in the country.

As we have frequently mentioned, the Middle East wars are at base a sectarian war between Sunni and Shia Muslim sects. US and British fury with Iran stems from the 1979 Iran Revolution when Iran took back their country from US and British petroleum interests after the overthrow of Iran in 1953. Iran is Shia. Since the US and Britain use Israel as an ally during their attempts to control the Middle East oil, and as Israel has been cavalier about snatching land from the Palestinians, a virtual genocide, Iran considers Israel an enemy too. The politics in the region were stable until the Bush Administration engineered an excuse to invade Iraq, in their greed to snatch the oil in the Middle East.

As we have frequently mentioned, ISIS is a result of, caused by, the Bush destabilization. Hussein’s Republican Guard was primarily Sunni, so to counter this, the US installed a Shia leaning leader in Iraq. The resentful Republican Guard form the basis of ISIS. A nightmare has ensued. Saudi Arabia, long an ally of the US and complicit in the 911 insider job, is Sunni and will not fight ISIS as a result. The Kurds fight ISIS but Turkey considers them terrorists determined to form a Kurdish state on Turkey lands, so when Turkey was enlisted to fight ISIS they bombed the Kurds instead. Israel meanwhile wants Assad in Syria deposed, but by arming rebels in Syria the US found it had armed ISIS, who had merged with the rebels. Due to its prior treaties and alliances with Israel, Saudi Arabia, and Turkey, and due to the political leanings of the US Congress and the British Parliament , Obama found himself unable to effectively move against ISIS. Thus, in full agreement with Putin, the US has pulled back to allow Russia to clean up the mess.

This is one side of the coin. What is happening on the monetary front is another. Although it does not need our confirmation, we have often stated that the banking industry is controlled by Jews. Sheldon Adelson is an example of how wealth runs the Republican Party in the US, which is in control of both houses of the Congress. George Soros, also Jewish purports to support many liberal causes in the US and Europe but as we have pointed out, is a provocateur and has been behind the current unrest in the Ukraine and lies about the downing of MH17. Wealth buys much influence.

Enter the Council of Worlds war with the cover-up. Where the supremely wealthy and influential Puppet Master wants the announcement, and as we have stated influenced Trump to enter the GOP race and by this destroy their chances in 2016, middle level management in the banking industry does NOT want the announcement to happen. Thus, as Benjamin Fulford states, major western banks are warning of impending collapse and for some reason the Federal Reserve .ORG website disappeared.  BRICS has emerged as an alternative to the IMF, and since 2013, the western banking Swift monetary transfer system has a Russian alternative.  

What is going on behind the scenes? Like most quiet revolutions, the public only sees the tip of the iceberg. A shark moving in the water shows itself only by its fin. And thus in this manner the Council of Worlds has destabilized the corruption in control of the western banking system. Matters such as the Swiss Franc unpegging from the Euro and prosecution of banks such as the HSBC are known, but what Fulford is revealing is the extent the western banking system, and Netanyahu by extension, is dependent upon Middle East oil money. Netanyahu wants Iran attacked by the US not because they fear a bomb, but because they want western control of Iranian oil.